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	<title>Comments on: You as History: Life writings and their place in Historical Research</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14: All &quot;Legacy&quot; photos are copied, mass printed, and copies are mailed to all known &#039;cousins&#039; etc.
Most Family History sofeware comes with a complete off site backup of your work. 
But you are right, you should re-burn your work to whatever replaces CD/DVDs or every ten years due to their age.
I can&#039;t begin to tell you the thanks I get for the sent photos. Some have never seen their grandparents, themself as a child, or their dead sister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14: All &#8220;Legacy&#8221; photos are copied, mass printed, and copies are mailed to all known &#8216;cousins&#8217; etc.<br />
Most Family History sofeware comes with a complete off site backup of your work.<br />
But you are right, you should re-burn your work to whatever replaces CD/DVDs or every ten years due to their age.<br />
I can&#8217;t begin to tell you the thanks I get for the sent photos. Some have never seen their grandparents, themself as a child, or their dead sister.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully stated Ryan!  Amen and amen!  

Bob, what a creative way to document your personal history, and certainly a blessing to you and yours. My largest fear with our incredible digital age is that information can be so quickly and easily lost; media recorded on a DVD will likely be obsolete in thirty years.  You have probably already done this, but if there is any way you can print off or publish into book form your precious photo histories, please do!  You want all those memories to be accessible to many future generations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully stated Ryan!  Amen and amen!  </p>
<p>Bob, what a creative way to document your personal history, and certainly a blessing to you and yours. My largest fear with our incredible digital age is that information can be so quickly and easily lost; media recorded on a DVD will likely be obsolete in thirty years.  You have probably already done this, but if there is any way you can print off or publish into book form your precious photo histories, please do!  You want all those memories to be accessible to many future generations!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Tobler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Tobler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be a bit slow in getting to this fine post, Brittany. I especially appreciate your emphasis on history as human life and &lt;em&gt;experience&lt;/em&gt;. By its nature, life writing reminds us that &lt;em&gt;experience&lt;/em&gt; can hardly be framed. It is not only written but conceived in media res...that is, the ends of the narrative  are not known from the beginning. Sometimes narrative history implies that life was more ordered and one-dimensional that it must have been. Meaning and narrative, for the writer and close reader of diaries, etc, are rich, complex, and shifting.

Bob has a point in his observation that in our day visual culture has taken some ground from print culture. Still, I hope both I and mine can make a literary effort at self-depiction. Perhaps its just nostalgia, but one of the things that I most regret, actually, is the gradual disappearance of autograph writings and epistolary relationships. But whether handwritten or in print, It seems to me that writing is still the best record of the inner life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be a bit slow in getting to this fine post, Brittany. I especially appreciate your emphasis on history as human life and <em>experience</em>. By its nature, life writing reminds us that <em>experience</em> can hardly be framed. It is not only written but conceived in media res&#8230;that is, the ends of the narrative  are not known from the beginning. Sometimes narrative history implies that life was more ordered and one-dimensional that it must have been. Meaning and narrative, for the writer and close reader of diaries, etc, are rich, complex, and shifting.</p>
<p>Bob has a point in his observation that in our day visual culture has taken some ground from print culture. Still, I hope both I and mine can make a literary effort at self-depiction. Perhaps its just nostalgia, but one of the things that I most regret, actually, is the gradual disappearance of autograph writings and epistolary relationships. But whether handwritten or in print, It seems to me that writing is still the best record of the inner life.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The fascinating journey of life...Documenting its ways and means, I believe is one of the most essential things we can do...&quot; I agree.
But I am not sure the &#039;journal&#039; has kept up. I think it was replaced with the camera[?]
My small family has thousands of photos taken over a hundred years. I have tried to look at these, and find the historical themes in them, and then make photo history essays. [ Think Ken Burns style].
 For we who have weak writing skills, a few bucks can buy some powerful multimedia sofeware, for either personal or family journals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fascinating journey of life&#8230;Documenting its ways and means, I believe is one of the most essential things we can do&#8230;&#8221; I agree.<br />
But I am not sure the &#8216;journal&#8217; has kept up. I think it was replaced with the camera[?]<br />
My small family has thousands of photos taken over a hundred years. I have tried to look at these, and find the historical themes in them, and then make photo history essays. [ Think Ken Burns style].<br />
 For we who have weak writing skills, a few bucks can buy some powerful multimedia sofeware, for either personal or family journals.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such great points!  Morgan &amp; Kate I loved your posts--Yes, one of the greatest debates in life writings: just how TRUTHFUL a record are we getting? Will we ever know?? Self-editing is soo easy to do, especially when you have a particular audience in mind (I do it!). I have not found a perfect solution yet, and I don&#039;t think there is one.  I have found, however, that as I read as much contextual information as I can find, as well as whatever other writings the person authored, I am able to &quot;read between the lines&quot; a bit better. Luckily, RMF was a poet, so I look at the poems she wrote contemporaneously with certain diary entries and it helps to  flesh out what she was feeling/thinking.  BUT, I realize that luxury is rare.  We have to do our best.  Any other suggestions? 

Jared--thanks for the dissertation tip! That is great to know.  Kevinf--You are so right--those &quot;juicy bits&quot; of raw emotion are usually what readers/scholars love to get! It&#039;s hard to let ourselves go and be totally honest on paper, for some crazy reason...but what have we got to lose?  How cool to have your ancestors diaries! And yeah...if any of you have your ancestors diaries, DONATE THEM to an archives so that other descendants can have access to them too!  They will also be much better cared for in an archives!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such great points!  Morgan &amp; Kate I loved your posts&#8211;Yes, one of the greatest debates in life writings: just how TRUTHFUL a record are we getting? Will we ever know?? Self-editing is soo easy to do, especially when you have a particular audience in mind (I do it!). I have not found a perfect solution yet, and I don&#8217;t think there is one.  I have found, however, that as I read as much contextual information as I can find, as well as whatever other writings the person authored, I am able to &#8220;read between the lines&#8221; a bit better. Luckily, RMF was a poet, so I look at the poems she wrote contemporaneously with certain diary entries and it helps to  flesh out what she was feeling/thinking.  BUT, I realize that luxury is rare.  We have to do our best.  Any other suggestions? </p>
<p>Jared&#8211;thanks for the dissertation tip! That is great to know.  Kevinf&#8211;You are so right&#8211;those &#8220;juicy bits&#8221; of raw emotion are usually what readers/scholars love to get! It&#8217;s hard to let ourselves go and be totally honest on paper, for some crazy reason&#8230;but what have we got to lose?  How cool to have your ancestors diaries! And yeah&#8230;if any of you have your ancestors diaries, DONATE THEM to an archives so that other descendants can have access to them too!  They will also be much better cared for in an archives!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. Thanks, Brittany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. Thanks, Brittany.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am looking forward to the publication of Ruth May Fox&#039;s diaries. I&#039;ve read part of her diaries and think it will be a great addition. You note that &quot;Life writings allow one to go straight to the source and get the facts about how people truly felt about such issues as plural marriage, woman suffrage, and the frequent uprooting of Mormon communities.&quot;  Do you think you really get &quot;the real story,&quot; whatever that is? Especially with such a prominent church leader? I know I tend to self-edit in my diaries. That being said, what I wouldn&#039;t give to find multiple diaries of some of the early Utah women I&#039;ve written about/studied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am looking forward to the publication of Ruth May Fox&#8217;s diaries. I&#8217;ve read part of her diaries and think it will be a great addition. You note that &#8220;Life writings allow one to go straight to the source and get the facts about how people truly felt about such issues as plural marriage, woman suffrage, and the frequent uprooting of Mormon communities.&#8221;  Do you think you really get &#8220;the real story,&#8221; whatever that is? Especially with such a prominent church leader? I know I tend to self-edit in my diaries. That being said, what I wouldn&#8217;t give to find multiple diaries of some of the early Utah women I&#8217;ve written about/studied.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brittany, great post. I hope it&#039;s only the first of many! 

I keep a journal with full knowledge that it&#039;ll be read and I&#039;m resigned to the fact that perhaps someday someone will take it and analyze is like I do to others.  All the more reason to remember that we&#039;re dealing with people--people who lived in a time and context that we get relatively short and incomplete glimpses of.

You&#039;ll have to keep your eye out for Jon Moyer&#039;s dissertation which he defended in the last few months at the UofU and which was tentatively called, as of a few years ago, “Dancing With the Devil: The Mormon Church and the Republican Party.&quot; I understand he traces the Republican party mainly from the 1890s and on (I&#039;m a bit unclear about the exact parameters). I don&#039;t know how much he has on women&#039;s organizational efforts, but anyway, it&#039;ll be worth being aware of once it becomes available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brittany, great post. I hope it&#8217;s only the first of many! </p>
<p>I keep a journal with full knowledge that it&#8217;ll be read and I&#8217;m resigned to the fact that perhaps someday someone will take it and analyze is like I do to others.  All the more reason to remember that we&#8217;re dealing with people&#8211;people who lived in a time and context that we get relatively short and incomplete glimpses of.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to keep your eye out for Jon Moyer&#8217;s dissertation which he defended in the last few months at the UofU and which was tentatively called, as of a few years ago, “Dancing With the Devil: The Mormon Church and the Republican Party.&#8221; I understand he traces the Republican party mainly from the 1890s and on (I&#8217;m a bit unclear about the exact parameters). I don&#8217;t know how much he has on women&#8217;s organizational efforts, but anyway, it&#8217;ll be worth being aware of once it becomes available.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brittany, I cringe when I think of diaries from my family that no one knows where they are anymore.  I&#039;m discovering from what little we have that my ancestors were involved in some pretty amazing things, and I am getting more intrigued with them as time goes on.

I also feel huge guilt that I haven&#039;t done a better job of documenting my own life for my descendants.  I&#039;m a little afraid of putting everything down for my kids to see, but on the other hand, those feelings and personal reflections often are the most interesting to read in others.

I&#039;m right now reading diaries and journals about the 1873 colonization mission to the Little Colorado that my great grandparents were involved in.  It&#039;s like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, without knowing all the details.  It&#039;s fascinating, and I&#039;m learning all sorts of other things along the way.  I could be like J Stapley, and do this full time, and just work occasionally.  (Tongue firmly in cheek, Stapley, honest).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brittany, I cringe when I think of diaries from my family that no one knows where they are anymore.  I&#8217;m discovering from what little we have that my ancestors were involved in some pretty amazing things, and I am getting more intrigued with them as time goes on.</p>
<p>I also feel huge guilt that I haven&#8217;t done a better job of documenting my own life for my descendants.  I&#8217;m a little afraid of putting everything down for my kids to see, but on the other hand, those feelings and personal reflections often are the most interesting to read in others.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m right now reading diaries and journals about the 1873 colonization mission to the Little Colorado that my great grandparents were involved in.  It&#8217;s like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, without knowing all the details.  It&#8217;s fascinating, and I&#8217;m learning all sorts of other things along the way.  I could be like J Stapley, and do this full time, and just work occasionally.  (Tongue firmly in cheek, Stapley, honest).</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Deane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Deane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this focus on diaries explains why I am so freaked about writing in mine.  The thought that future generations will parse and disect every phrase is so scary for me that I feel I can&#039;t write and be authentic.  It also reminds of the old critique of reality shows: if you know the camera is recording then does it affect your actions?  Then can we really call those affected actions &quot;reality&quot;?   I think about all this as I try to write aobut &quot;me&quot; in my journal.  If I know that people are going to see this as me does that change what I write and hence the picture of who I am?   

Thanks for the post. It definitely got me thinking while also reinforcing my view about personal history.  I guess future family historians will just have to rely on other means to know about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this focus on diaries explains why I am so freaked about writing in mine.  The thought that future generations will parse and disect every phrase is so scary for me that I feel I can&#8217;t write and be authentic.  It also reminds of the old critique of reality shows: if you know the camera is recording then does it affect your actions?  Then can we really call those affected actions &#8220;reality&#8221;?   I think about all this as I try to write aobut &#8220;me&#8221; in my journal.  If I know that people are going to see this as me does that change what I write and hence the picture of who I am?   </p>
<p>Thanks for the post. It definitely got me thinking while also reinforcing my view about personal history.  I guess future family historians will just have to rely on other means to know about me.</p>
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