Comments on: “The Second Coming of our Saviour … is just around the corner”: Raising the Voice of Warning in 2008 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Juvenile Instructor » From The Archives: Posts You Might Have Missed, March-May 2008 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-40162 Juvenile Instructor » From The Archives: Posts You Might Have Missed, March-May 2008 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:51:43 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-40162 [...] The Gill-ites and the Second Coming [...] [...] The Gill-ites and the Second Coming [...]

]]> By: Christine http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-23570 Christine Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:15:25 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-23570 Well, I am still waiting to be enlightened. Well, I am still waiting to be enlightened.

]]> By: Christine http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-16007 Christine Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:34:46 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-16007 I am surprised that no one in the LDS community has been able to pass on any information about what the Sacramento conference brought up about the Gillities from a doctrinal/theological angle. I sincerely want to know this. I am surprised that no one in the LDS community has been able to pass on any information about what the Sacramento conference brought up about the Gillities from a doctrinal/theological angle.

I sincerely want to know this.

]]> By: Christine http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10959 Christine Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:25:46 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-10959 What have Bowman and Baker at the Sacramento conference had to say on the subject of the Gillites; Does anyone know, please? What have Bowman and Baker at the Sacramento conference had to say on the subject of the Gillites; Does anyone know, please?

]]> By: Christopher http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10404 Christopher Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:17:01 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-10404 While anyone is allowed to comment here, let me just remind our readers that the Juvenile Instructor is a blog dedicated to the academic study of Latter Day Saint (with interest in all Latter Day Saint denominations) history and culture. As such, we're more interested in studying the Gillites as a movement, and how they are situating their identity in relationship to other Latter Day Saint groups and their larger host culture. This is not the forum to ridicule their beliefs or approach to scripture or anything else. While anyone is allowed to comment here, let me just remind our readers that the Juvenile Instructor is a blog dedicated to the academic study of Latter Day Saint (with interest in all Latter Day Saint denominations) history and culture. As such, we’re more interested in studying the Gillites as a movement, and how they are situating their identity in relationship to other Latter Day Saint groups and their larger host culture. This is not the forum to ridicule their beliefs or approach to scripture or anything else.

]]> By: Christine http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10403 Christine Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:02:49 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-10403 The plot thickens! Have you read the Nauvoo Forum comments recently, anyone? The plot thickens! Have you read the Nauvoo Forum comments recently, anyone?

]]> By: Doug http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-9199 Doug Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:25:30 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-9199 After watching Gill's videos and reading articles in his blog, I found him to be quite illogical. Have a look at his article on Joseph Smith's prophey concerning the Civil War. "Many LDS members believe that Joseph Smith Jr prophesied the American Civil War in 1832 but it fails to appear in any contemporary writing of the time even though in the LDS edition of the Doctrine and Covenants section 87 it is dated December 25, 1832, this did not appear in the 1833 Book of Commandments or in any edition of the Doctrine and Covenants or in any LDS scripture for that matter until after the Civil War began! It was first printed in the 1851 Pearl of Great Price in England." (Source: http://thelatterdaychurchofchrist.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html ) And please note the last two sentences. He clearly claims that the prophecy appeared in the D&C after the Civil War. However, ironically, he "backs" his opinion with the fact that it was first printed in the 1851 Pearl of Great Price. And as you would know, the Civil War(1861~1865) broke ten years after 1851. Knowing this, no further exchange of ideas is necessary to prove how ignorant and illogical this man is. In short, he doesn't even know about what he's into. And I laughed my guts out how he spoke of the saints after his poor work of denying the prophecy. "So to all those LDS members that keep bombarding my office with emails and letters asking why we have gone astray from the true church I say this, maybe you need to look a little closer at your own scriptural faults and not at ours. Joseph Smith Jr was a great man a man that used sense not illogical thinking..." Faults....what faults? After watching Gill’s videos and reading articles in his blog, I found him to be quite illogical. Have a look at his article on Joseph Smith’s prophey concerning the Civil War.

“Many LDS members believe that Joseph Smith Jr prophesied the American Civil War in 1832 but it fails to appear in any contemporary writing of the time even though in the LDS edition of the Doctrine and Covenants section 87 it is dated December 25, 1832, this did not appear in the 1833 Book of Commandments or in any edition of the Doctrine and Covenants or in any LDS scripture for that matter until after the Civil War began! It was first printed in the 1851 Pearl of Great Price in England.”
(Source: http://thelatterdaychurchofchrist.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html )

And please note the last two sentences. He clearly claims that the prophecy appeared in the D&C after the Civil War. However, ironically, he “backs” his opinion with the fact that it was first printed in the 1851 Pearl of Great Price. And as you would know, the Civil War(1861~1865) broke ten years after 1851. Knowing this, no further exchange of ideas is necessary to prove how ignorant and illogical this man is. In short, he doesn’t even know about what he’s into. And I laughed my guts out how he spoke of the saints after his poor work of denying the prophecy.

“So to all those LDS members that keep bombarding my office with emails and letters asking why we have gone astray from the true church I say this, maybe you need to look a little closer at your own scriptural faults and not at ours. Joseph Smith Jr was a great man a man that used sense not illogical thinking…”

Faults….what faults?

]]> By: Christine http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-8764 Christine Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:02:11 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-8764 I know these people (the Gills) very well. The whole thing - the 'breakaway' church and especially the appeal for money turns my stomach. I know these people (the Gills) very well. The whole thing – the ‘breakaway’ church and especially the appeal for money turns my stomach.

]]> By: Christopher http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-8173 Christopher Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:40:48 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-8173 Christine, you think that's weird? <a href="http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/from-the-archives-john-wesley-the-latter-day-saint/" rel="nofollow">Parley P. Pratt thought Wesley was a Mormon!</a> Christine, you think that’s weird? Parley P. Pratt thought Wesley was a Mormon!

]]> By: Jared T http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-8170 Jared T Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:06:01 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-second-coming-of-our-saviour-is-just-around-the-corner-raising-the-voice-of-warning-in-2008/#comment-8170 Don't laugh to hard, Christine, apparently Joseph didn't know Jerusalem had a wall around it. :) Don’t laugh to hard, Christine, apparently Joseph didn’t know Jerusalem had a wall around it. :)

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