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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Tim didn&#039;t get the memo about the group hug.

Time to give it up, buddy. You&#039;ve used our blog for your soapbox long enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Tim didn&#8217;t get the memo about the group hug.</p>
<p>Time to give it up, buddy. You&#8217;ve used our blog for your soapbox long enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#132: Somebody needs her nap.
 I thought it went well with #120.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#132: Somebody needs her nap.<br />
 I thought it went well with #120.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thus, we are striking to protect the benefits we were promised when we came to the University.&quot;

If that were true, your strike was all for nothing.  You don&#039;t need to have a union or a strike to fight for something that is contractually guaranteed to use as an individual.  Additionally, even if you couldn&#039;t force the university into binding arbitration, you could use your union&#039;s resources to sue the university if you were denied your contractually entitled benefits.  A judge would have to be a fool or a madman to NOT grant injunctive relief, especially if this action was a class action, which would be expected if you really all have been guaranteed a tuition waiver for the duration of your time here.

So, if your own statements are true, this strike was for nothing.  Additionally, if the tuition waiver was already a matter of contractual entitlement, you had more to gain by accepting Saturday&#039;s contract offer than the one you have on the table right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thus, we are striking to protect the benefits we were promised when we came to the University.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that were true, your strike was all for nothing.  You don&#8217;t need to have a union or a strike to fight for something that is contractually guaranteed to use as an individual.  Additionally, even if you couldn&#8217;t force the university into binding arbitration, you could use your union&#8217;s resources to sue the university if you were denied your contractually entitled benefits.  A judge would have to be a fool or a madman to NOT grant injunctive relief, especially if this action was a class action, which would be expected if you really all have been guaranteed a tuition waiver for the duration of your time here.</p>
<p>So, if your own statements are true, this strike was for nothing.  Additionally, if the tuition waiver was already a matter of contractual entitlement, you had more to gain by accepting Saturday&#8217;s contract offer than the one you have on the table right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cumbaya, Cumbaya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cumbaya, Cumbaya</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Bob, that comment would have been timely, oh, 70 or 80 comments ago. Maybe. Besides, can&#039;t you see we&#039;re all hugging now, our status, income, and professional differences forgotten? Awwwww...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Bob, that comment would have been timely, oh, 70 or 80 comments ago. Maybe. Besides, can&#8217;t you see we&#8217;re all hugging now, our status, income, and professional differences forgotten? Awwwww&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to make $100,000+ as an lawyer, You are either going to have to be Machiavellian, or have some great skills others don&#039;t. It is also helpful to be in the room where a lot of cash is flowing thru people&#039;s hands. Law pays well, if you also are a good business person and have people skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to make $100,000+ as an lawyer, You are either going to have to be Machiavellian, or have some great skills others don&#8217;t. It is also helpful to be in the room where a lot of cash is flowing thru people&#8217;s hands. Law pays well, if you also are a good business person and have people skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda H.</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-corporatization-of-the-university/comment-page-3/#comment-52855</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest something?  We might see the tuition waivers as an attempt to make graduate school more diverse and equitable.  The tuition at the public university where I am a graduate student is $36,000 a year.  As someone from a lower socioeconomic background, I could never afford to pay that outright and the likely salary I would make after graduate school would never allow me to pay it back if I had to take it all out in loans.  No tuition waiver, no graduate school for me.

Also, I have some friends who have full-ride scholarships to law school, and yes, their scholarships come with a small stipend. Should law schools offer more scholarships to make it possible for more low income students to attend?  Perhaps, but let&#039;s not pretend that every student who is at law school is paying their way.

Oh, and since this has turned into a &quot;how far can you spit&quot; contest, I have worked as a maid, at a fast food restaurant, and as a forest ranger (just for a summer).  My parents also both work at a factory, and my mom used to make me take out the kitty litter and occasionally clean the toilet.  It was gross and brutal labor.  I now make my husband do it.

Chris H. -- Thanks for making that other post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest something?  We might see the tuition waivers as an attempt to make graduate school more diverse and equitable.  The tuition at the public university where I am a graduate student is $36,000 a year.  As someone from a lower socioeconomic background, I could never afford to pay that outright and the likely salary I would make after graduate school would never allow me to pay it back if I had to take it all out in loans.  No tuition waiver, no graduate school for me.</p>
<p>Also, I have some friends who have full-ride scholarships to law school, and yes, their scholarships come with a small stipend. Should law schools offer more scholarships to make it possible for more low income students to attend?  Perhaps, but let&#8217;s not pretend that every student who is at law school is paying their way.</p>
<p>Oh, and since this has turned into a &#8220;how far can you spit&#8221; contest, I have worked as a maid, at a fast food restaurant, and as a forest ranger (just for a summer).  My parents also both work at a factory, and my mom used to make me take out the kitty litter and occasionally clean the toilet.  It was gross and brutal labor.  I now make my husband do it.</p>
<p>Chris H. &#8212; Thanks for making that other post.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M (Ethesis)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen M (Ethesis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thus, we are striking to protect the benefits we were promised when we came to the University.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that is the point that got overlooked in much of the above debate and discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thus, we are striking to protect the benefits we were promised when we came to the University.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that is the point that got overlooked in much of the above debate and discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-corporatization-of-the-university/comment-page-3/#comment-52852</link>
		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 128 comments (and counting). We usually only get this type of traffic when we blog about race or Glenn Beck. I guess labor disputes get people riled up too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 128 comments (and counting). We usually only get this type of traffic when we blog about race or Glenn Beck. I guess labor disputes get people riled up too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/the-corporatization-of-the-university/comment-page-3/#comment-52851</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugs all around Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugs all around Steve.</p>
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