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	<title>Comments on: Review: Deseret Sunday School Songs, a hymnal</title>
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		<title>By: verda jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>verda jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to find a copy of the song, &quot;I had such a pretty dream, momma.&quot;  Does anyone have the words and the music?  thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to find a copy of the song, &#8220;I had such a pretty dream, momma.&#8221;  Does anyone have the words and the music?  thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared T.</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/review-deseret-sunday-school-songs-a-hymnal/comment-page-1/#comment-44391</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane, thank you very much for that information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane, thank you very much for that information.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Chism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Chism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue,

Your copy is a &quot;selections&quot; version, with 32 hymns as you stated, and was bound in paper wraps.  I believe this version was published after 1909, since the Deseret Book Company didn&#039;t exist in that name until 1920. The original 1909 version contained 295 hymns, and is found in either cloth or black leather.  I have complete copies of both if anyone has any questions.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,</p>
<p>Your copy is a &#8220;selections&#8221; version, with 32 hymns as you stated, and was bound in paper wraps.  I believe this version was published after 1909, since the Deseret Book Company didn&#8217;t exist in that name until 1920. The original 1909 version contained 295 hymns, and is found in either cloth or black leather.  I have complete copies of both if anyone has any questions.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 2 1/2 copies of &quot;Deseret Sunday School Songs&quot;, but it sounds nothing like what you are describing. It was copyrighted in 1909 by Joseph F. Smith, and published by Deseret Book Company. It is 32 pages of the songs we sing today. Anyone know anything about these books?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 1/2 copies of &#8220;Deseret Sunday School Songs&#8221;, but it sounds nothing like what you are describing. It was copyrighted in 1909 by Joseph F. Smith, and published by Deseret Book Company. It is 32 pages of the songs we sing today. Anyone know anything about these books?</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay okay, I get it. I know.

Forgive me, guys (and gals), it&#039;s been a busy past 2 months in the life of Heidi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay okay, I get it. I know.</p>
<p>Forgive me, guys (and gals), it&#8217;s been a busy past 2 months in the life of Heidi</p>
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		<title>By: matt b</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - thanks for your informed observations; you&#039;ve read perhaps more closely than I here.

Hi, Heidi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; thanks for your informed observations; you&#8217;ve read perhaps more closely than I here.</p>
<p>Hi, Heidi!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some browsing through the googlebooks reproduction.  Here are my observations:

First, check out hymns 62 and 63.  Whoever did the copying immortalized his/her fingers.  Once they got to 69, they realized the error and repeated 62-69 with undamaged versions.

Hymn 22 is Flag of the Free, set to Wagner&#039;s Wedding March from Lohengrin.  But later, the Pilgrim&#039;s chorus is not from Wagner&#039;s Tannhauser, but from Verdi&#039;s I Lombardi.

Of the 295 hymns, 106 are basically unchanged in our current book.  An additional five are in the current primary book.

Two hymns appear both with the music we are familiar with, and with other music:  O My Father, 83 and 181 (set to Haydn&#039;s Austrian Hymn, which in our book accompanies Glorious Things... which appears here with a different melody, 119); and Earth with her Ten Thousand Flowers, 75 and 90.

Twelve additional texts in our current book (90, 119, 135, 155, 181, 191, 223, 233, 252, 254, 283, and 292) appear here with different music.  In an interesting quirk, the music to 155 appears in hymn 160 in our book while the text is on the facing page (162). 

The melody for There is a green hill (252) is better known as &quot;Drink to me only with thine eyes.&quot;  The melody for I stand all amazed (254) is the same, but has been moved to the tenor range.

Come Thou Fount also appears (216) with a non-familiar melody.  Another hymn unjustly excluded from the 1985 book, Take Courage Saints, appears here (280), not with the beautiful Frank Asper tune (composed after 1909, after all) but set to one of Mendelssohn&#039;s most celebrated Song without words -- &quot;Consolation&quot;, Op. 30, #3.

Check out the crazy round on p. 235, as well as the better known Frere Jacques on 109 (Hark the pretty birds are singing).  There are a lot of funny nature songs, celebrating Arbor Day, the seasons, etc.

Two other jubilee songs you didn&#039;t mention are found on 171 and 267.

Hymn 237 seems to be almost in the style of Anglican Chant.

Finally, for the most sentimental of them all, check out 184, &quot;Oh, I had such a Pretty Dream, Mamma.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some browsing through the googlebooks reproduction.  Here are my observations:</p>
<p>First, check out hymns 62 and 63.  Whoever did the copying immortalized his/her fingers.  Once they got to 69, they realized the error and repeated 62-69 with undamaged versions.</p>
<p>Hymn 22 is Flag of the Free, set to Wagner&#8217;s Wedding March from Lohengrin.  But later, the Pilgrim&#8217;s chorus is not from Wagner&#8217;s Tannhauser, but from Verdi&#8217;s I Lombardi.</p>
<p>Of the 295 hymns, 106 are basically unchanged in our current book.  An additional five are in the current primary book.</p>
<p>Two hymns appear both with the music we are familiar with, and with other music:  O My Father, 83 and 181 (set to Haydn&#8217;s Austrian Hymn, which in our book accompanies Glorious Things&#8230; which appears here with a different melody, 119); and Earth with her Ten Thousand Flowers, 75 and 90.</p>
<p>Twelve additional texts in our current book (90, 119, 135, 155, 181, 191, 223, 233, 252, 254, 283, and 292) appear here with different music.  In an interesting quirk, the music to 155 appears in hymn 160 in our book while the text is on the facing page (162). </p>
<p>The melody for There is a green hill (252) is better known as &#8220;Drink to me only with thine eyes.&#8221;  The melody for I stand all amazed (254) is the same, but has been moved to the tenor range.</p>
<p>Come Thou Fount also appears (216) with a non-familiar melody.  Another hymn unjustly excluded from the 1985 book, Take Courage Saints, appears here (280), not with the beautiful Frank Asper tune (composed after 1909, after all) but set to one of Mendelssohn&#8217;s most celebrated Song without words &#8212; &#8220;Consolation&#8221;, Op. 30, #3.</p>
<p>Check out the crazy round on p. 235, as well as the better known Frere Jacques on 109 (Hark the pretty birds are singing).  There are a lot of funny nature songs, celebrating Arbor Day, the seasons, etc.</p>
<p>Two other jubilee songs you didn&#8217;t mention are found on 171 and 267.</p>
<p>Hymn 237 seems to be almost in the style of Anglican Chant.</p>
<p>Finally, for the most sentimental of them all, check out 184, &#8220;Oh, I had such a Pretty Dream, Mamma.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Edje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17, &quot;Oh My Mother&quot;: Wow! very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17, &#8220;Oh My Mother&#8221;: Wow! very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, Heidi still blogs here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Heidi still blogs here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brush Your Teeth&quot; must be the Spanish version of &quot;Tooth Bugs.&quot;  There was quite a discussion of that song on Times and Seasons a couple of years ago which should be findable in their archives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brush Your Teeth&#8221; must be the Spanish version of &#8220;Tooth Bugs.&#8221;  There was quite a discussion of that song on Times and Seasons a couple of years ago which should be findable in their archives.</p>
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