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	<title>Comments on: Review: Afternoon Session of UVSC&#8217;s Mormon Studies Conference</title>
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		<title>By: JonW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>silly I know but I snickered as I read aloud Wightites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>silly I know but I snickered as I read aloud Wightites.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: I echo David&#039;s encouragement. &quot;Thou art the man&quot; for this specific project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: I echo David&#8217;s encouragement. &#8220;Thou art the man&#8221; for this specific project.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, that sounds like a fantastic idea. I say go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, that sounds like a fantastic idea. I say go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of publications, Jean Addams&#039; work on the Hedrickites has been published in &lt;em&gt;Scattering of the Saints. &lt;/em&gt; He is currently working on a comprehensive history of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), which is probably 2 years away from being on your bookshelf.  Vickie Speek&#039;s book is already out and I absolutely recommend it.  It won MHA&#039;s Best 1st Book award last year and was runner up for JWHA&#039;s Best Book the year before.  Michael Van Wagenen&#039;s remarks were very similar to the article he published in &lt;em&gt;Scattering of the Saints&lt;/em&gt; and his book is also already available.  Steve Shields&#039; remarks were original, but similar to an essay that was published in vol. 27 of the JWHA Journal.  Steve is currently at work on a new edition of &lt;em&gt;Divergent Paths of the Restoration&lt;/em&gt;.  However, the new book will be almost encyclopedic — perhaps 900 pages long.  That&#039;s probably 2 years away from your bookcase.

I&#039;ve been very seriously kicking around the idea of writing an introductory/summary book — maybe 120 pages + 20 pages of charts and such, so that there is an accessible, narrative overview.  That would be similar to the very brief intro I gave at this conference, but obviously more detailed.  If that gets to the head of the queue, that might be available relatively soon.  We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of publications, Jean Addams&#8217; work on the Hedrickites has been published in <em>Scattering of the Saints. </em> He is currently working on a comprehensive history of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), which is probably 2 years away from being on your bookshelf.  Vickie Speek&#8217;s book is already out and I absolutely recommend it.  It won MHA&#8217;s Best 1st Book award last year and was runner up for JWHA&#8217;s Best Book the year before.  Michael Van Wagenen&#8217;s remarks were very similar to the article he published in <em>Scattering of the Saints</em> and his book is also already available.  Steve Shields&#8217; remarks were original, but similar to an essay that was published in vol. 27 of the JWHA Journal.  Steve is currently at work on a new edition of <em>Divergent Paths of the Restoration</em>.  However, the new book will be almost encyclopedic — perhaps 900 pages long.  That&#8217;s probably 2 years away from your bookcase.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been very seriously kicking around the idea of writing an introductory/summary book — maybe 120 pages + 20 pages of charts and such, so that there is an accessible, narrative overview.  That would be similar to the very brief intro I gave at this conference, but obviously more detailed.  If that gets to the head of the queue, that might be available relatively soon.  We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blair: I&#039;m not sure. All of the material presented has been published previously by these historians in one form or another. I&#039;d say check out Brighurst and Hamer&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Scattering of the Saints&lt;/em&gt;, to which all three of these individuals contributed, for more information on the topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair: I&#8217;m not sure. All of the material presented has been published previously by these historians in one form or another. I&#8217;d say check out Brighurst and Hamer&#8217;s <em>Scattering of the Saints</em>, to which all three of these individuals contributed, for more information on the topics.</p>
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		<title>By: BHodges</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will these presentations be published in any format?</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report David.  Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report David.  Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the summary, David. I&#039;m sorry I had to miss the afternoon presentations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the summary, David. I&#8217;m sorry I had to miss the afternoon presentations.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for tracking down those sources, Keller. Indeed, fascinating.</description>
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		<title>By: Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great report, David, it saves me the trouble of having to do a write-up, when I should be grading papers. I am glad we got to hang out for a bit.

I would have to nominate myself for worst question during the Q and A period. I thought van Wagenen gave the most interesting presentation of the day, but was underused in the panel discussion since the Wightites didn&#039;t last. So I tossed him a question about Joseph Smith&#039;s platform about freeing the slaves and giving them their own land to act as a buffer between the United States and Mexico. However I phrased it badly and didn&#039;t have a source handy to clarify so van Wagenen didn&#039;t know what I was talking about.

Someone in the back came close, but not quite. So I spent a few minutes yesterday tracing my source down, which I became aware of by reading Connell O&#039;Donovan&#039;s article on Walker Lewis.

He writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;When Smith campaigned for president as a Jeffersonian Democrat in the spring and summer of 1844, it was on a platform that included a plan to abolish slavery by 1850 by compensated emancipation &quot;for a reasonable price&quot;, through the sale of public lands; the resulting freed slaves would then be settled in Texas.[69]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And later:

&lt;blockquote&gt;At a meeting at the Nauvoo Temple on March 7, 1844, William W. Phelps, a member of the Council of the Fifty sitting on Joseph Smith’s &quot;central campaign committee&quot;, read General Smith’s Views and Smith was &quot;unanimously, with one exception&quot; nominated as a candidate for President of the United States.   Explaining his views on slavery and westward expansion, Smith said that he would free the slaves from a few states, compensate their owners, annex Texas, and settle the freed slaves in Texas, where they would act as a buffer of human flesh against the British, who were also attempting to gain control of Texas:

 
&quot;British officers are now running all over Texas to establish British influence in that country.... It will be more honorable for us to receive Texas and set the negroes free, and use the negroes and Indians against our foes....How much better it is for the nation to bear a little expense than to have the Indians and British upon us and destroy us all.... The South holds the balance of power. By annexing Texas, I can do away with this evil. As soon as Texas was annexed, I would liberate the slaves in two or three States, indemnifying [i.e. compensating] their owners, and send the negroes to Texas, and from Texas to Mexico, where all colors are alike. And if that was not sufficient, I would call upon Canada, and annex it.[74]&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I went and read the sources that O&#039;Donovan refers to. The platform pamphlet &quot;General Smith&#039;s Views . . .&quot; doesn&#039;t promote the idea to create an Freed slave buffer state in Texas, but the discussion on March 7, 1844, does. See http://www.boap.org/LDS/History/History_of_the_Church/Vol_VI

So that idea shows that Joseph Smith was thinking like Sam Houston was, only on the contingency that Joseph made a successful bid for the Presidency, the freed slaves and not the Mormons would settle and defend the territory between the Rio Grande and Neuces River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great report, David, it saves me the trouble of having to do a write-up, when I should be grading papers. I am glad we got to hang out for a bit.</p>
<p>I would have to nominate myself for worst question during the Q and A period. I thought van Wagenen gave the most interesting presentation of the day, but was underused in the panel discussion since the Wightites didn&#8217;t last. So I tossed him a question about Joseph Smith&#8217;s platform about freeing the slaves and giving them their own land to act as a buffer between the United States and Mexico. However I phrased it badly and didn&#8217;t have a source handy to clarify so van Wagenen didn&#8217;t know what I was talking about.</p>
<p>Someone in the back came close, but not quite. So I spent a few minutes yesterday tracing my source down, which I became aware of by reading Connell O&#8217;Donovan&#8217;s article on Walker Lewis.</p>
<p>He writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>When Smith campaigned for president as a Jeffersonian Democrat in the spring and summer of 1844, it was on a platform that included a plan to abolish slavery by 1850 by compensated emancipation &#8220;for a reasonable price&#8221;, through the sale of public lands; the resulting freed slaves would then be settled in Texas.[69]</p></blockquote>
<p>And later:</p>
<blockquote><p>At a meeting at the Nauvoo Temple on March 7, 1844, William W. Phelps, a member of the Council of the Fifty sitting on Joseph Smith’s &#8220;central campaign committee&#8221;, read General Smith’s Views and Smith was &#8220;unanimously, with one exception&#8221; nominated as a candidate for President of the United States.   Explaining his views on slavery and westward expansion, Smith said that he would free the slaves from a few states, compensate their owners, annex Texas, and settle the freed slaves in Texas, where they would act as a buffer of human flesh against the British, who were also attempting to gain control of Texas:</p>
<p>&#8220;British officers are now running all over Texas to establish British influence in that country&#8230;. It will be more honorable for us to receive Texas and set the negroes free, and use the negroes and Indians against our foes&#8230;.How much better it is for the nation to bear a little expense than to have the Indians and British upon us and destroy us all&#8230;. The South holds the balance of power. By annexing Texas, I can do away with this evil. As soon as Texas was annexed, I would liberate the slaves in two or three States, indemnifying [i.e. compensating] their owners, and send the negroes to Texas, and from Texas to Mexico, where all colors are alike. And if that was not sufficient, I would call upon Canada, and annex it.[74]&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>I went and read the sources that O&#8217;Donovan refers to. The platform pamphlet &#8220;General Smith&#8217;s Views . . .&#8221; doesn&#8217;t promote the idea to create an Freed slave buffer state in Texas, but the discussion on March 7, 1844, does. See <a href="http://www.boap.org/LDS/History/History_of_the_Church/Vol_VI" rel="nofollow">http://www.boap.org/LDS/History/History_of_the_Church/Vol_VI</a></p>
<p>So that idea shows that Joseph Smith was thinking like Sam Houston was, only on the contingency that Joseph made a successful bid for the Presidency, the freed slaves and not the Mormons would settle and defend the territory between the Rio Grande and Neuces River.</p>
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