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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Plurality of Wives was an Incident, Never an Essential&#8221;: James E. Talmage on Polygamy</title>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; A Divinely Ordered Species of Eugenics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; A Divinely Ordered Species of Eugenics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the twentieth century and how they wanted the world to perceive them. One strategy, highlighted here, was to downplay the significance of plural marriage in both practice and in doctrine. However, at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along the lines of privately affirming plural marriage wasn&#039;t necessary for exaltation, the Church recognized that the calling and election of some monogamous individual&#039;s had been made sure.

More publicly, George Q. Cannon helped promote vicarious work for the dead towards as a means for helping those without opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along the lines of privately affirming plural marriage wasn&#8217;t necessary for exaltation, the Church recognized that the calling and election of some monogamous individual&#8217;s had been made sure.</p>
<p>More publicly, George Q. Cannon helped promote vicarious work for the dead towards as a means for helping those without opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Bradford (Grasshopper)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Bradford (Grasshopper)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is true that being &quot;a polygamist at heart&quot; was considered sufficient, it was not (during the official practice by the Church) to be used as an excuse for failing to comply when possible:

&quot;Some people have supposed that the doctrine of plural marriage was a sort of superfluity, or non-essential, to the salvation or exaltation of mankind. In other words, some of the Saints have said, and believe, that a man with one wife, sealed to him by the authority of the Priesthood for time and eternity, will receive an exaltation as great and glorious, if he is faithful, as he possibly could with more than one. I want here to enter my solemn protest against this idea, for I know it is false. There is no blesssing promised except upon conditions, and no blessing can be obtained by mankind except by faithful compliance with the conditions, or law, upon which the same is promised. The marriage of one woman to a man for time and eternity by the sealing power, according to the will of God, is a fulfillment of the celestial law of marriage in part—and is good so far as it goes—and so far as a man abides these conditions of the law, he will receive his reward therefor, and this reward, or blessing, he could not obtain on any other grounds or conditions. But this is only the beginning of the law, not the whole of it. Therefore, whoever has imagined that he could obtain the fullness of the blessings pertaining to this celestial law, by complying with only a portion of its conditions, has deceived himself.&quot; (Joseph F. Smith, 1878, JD 20:29)

Do we know whether Joseph F. Smith changed his views to be more in accord with Elder Talmage&#039;s 1894 statement after the Manifesto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is true that being &#8220;a polygamist at heart&#8221; was considered sufficient, it was not (during the official practice by the Church) to be used as an excuse for failing to comply when possible:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some people have supposed that the doctrine of plural marriage was a sort of superfluity, or non-essential, to the salvation or exaltation of mankind. In other words, some of the Saints have said, and believe, that a man with one wife, sealed to him by the authority of the Priesthood for time and eternity, will receive an exaltation as great and glorious, if he is faithful, as he possibly could with more than one. I want here to enter my solemn protest against this idea, for I know it is false. There is no blesssing promised except upon conditions, and no blessing can be obtained by mankind except by faithful compliance with the conditions, or law, upon which the same is promised. The marriage of one woman to a man for time and eternity by the sealing power, according to the will of God, is a fulfillment of the celestial law of marriage in part—and is good so far as it goes—and so far as a man abides these conditions of the law, he will receive his reward therefor, and this reward, or blessing, he could not obtain on any other grounds or conditions. But this is only the beginning of the law, not the whole of it. Therefore, whoever has imagined that he could obtain the fullness of the blessings pertaining to this celestial law, by complying with only a portion of its conditions, has deceived himself.&#8221; (Joseph F. Smith, 1878, JD 20:29)</p>
<p>Do we know whether Joseph F. Smith changed his views to be more in accord with Elder Talmage&#8217;s 1894 statement after the Manifesto?</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BHodges: All Mormons were enjoined to enter into the practice, but, as Daynes notes, Church leaders were aware that not all Saints had the capacity to do so. If a Mormon was impeded from practicing plural marriage, then being a polygamist at heart was considered sufficient (Daynes, &lt;em&gt;More Wives than One&lt;/em&gt;, 71-76; see also Hardy, &lt;em&gt;Solemn Covenant&lt;/em&gt;, 54).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BHodges: All Mormons were enjoined to enter into the practice, but, as Daynes notes, Church leaders were aware that not all Saints had the capacity to do so. If a Mormon was impeded from practicing plural marriage, then being a polygamist at heart was considered sufficient (Daynes, <em>More Wives than One</em>, 71-76; see also Hardy, <em>Solemn Covenant</em>, 54).</p>
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		<title>By: BHodges</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brigham Young stressed an acquiescence to the doctrine, not that all would have to practice it, but should accept it as a true principle. He also said plural marriage was not a requirement of the Celestial Kingdom. He didn&#039;t preach it publicly, to my knowledge, but in his personal letters he mentioned it to a man whose wife would not consent to live the principle. 

&quot;A man can be saved in the Celestial Kingdom with but one wife,&quot; (Brigham Young Letterbook II:735)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigham Young stressed an acquiescence to the doctrine, not that all would have to practice it, but should accept it as a true principle. He also said plural marriage was not a requirement of the Celestial Kingdom. He didn&#8217;t preach it publicly, to my knowledge, but in his personal letters he mentioned it to a man whose wife would not consent to live the principle. </p>
<p>&#8220;A man can be saved in the Celestial Kingdom with but one wife,&#8221; (Brigham Young Letterbook II:735)</p>
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		<title>By: Jettboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jettboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think Widtsoe, Talmage, and Roberts shaped all of mormonism in their time period&quot;

I hear a good book from that idea. However, I think it would be innacurate if you don&#039;t add Joseph Fielding Smith to that list. He was influencial long before he became Prophet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Widtsoe, Talmage, and Roberts shaped all of mormonism in their time period&#8221;</p>
<p>I hear a good book from that idea. However, I think it would be innacurate if you don&#8217;t add Joseph Fielding Smith to that list. He was influencial long before he became Prophet.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Widtsoe, Talmage, and Roberts shaped all of mormonism in their time period</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Widtsoe, Talmage, and Roberts shaped all of mormonism in their time period</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I guess I should&#039;ve been clearer. I meant to ask if he was responsible for &lt;em&gt;popularizing&lt;/em&gt; that sort of discourse among the Saints. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I guess I should&#8217;ve been clearer. I meant to ask if he was responsible for <em>popularizing</em> that sort of discourse among the Saints.</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: I think it would be hard to prove that Talmage is responsible for creating the discourse. I do think that Talmage shaped to a degree how later Mormons remembered their polygamous past, but he wasn&#039;t the only Mormon talking like this in the years after the Manifesto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: I think it would be hard to prove that Talmage is responsible for creating the discourse. I do think that Talmage shaped to a degree how later Mormons remembered their polygamous past, but he wasn&#8217;t the only Mormon talking like this in the years after the Manifesto.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, is Talmage responsible for creating this &quot;plurality of wives was an incident, never an essential&quot;-type discourse among the general membership of the Church? His reasoning is strikingly similar to explanations one would hear in any given LDS Sunday School today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, is Talmage responsible for creating this &#8220;plurality of wives was an incident, never an essential&#8221;-type discourse among the general membership of the Church? His reasoning is strikingly similar to explanations one would hear in any given LDS Sunday School today.</p>
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