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	<title>Comments on: Making Sense of Doctrine and Covenants 39-40; or why it matters that James Covill was a Methodist and not a Baptist</title>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; The Juvenile Instructor Turns 2</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-50308</link>
		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; The Juvenile Instructor Turns 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] degree sought): University of Chicago (MA, Religious Studies) Favorite JI post: Christopher&#8217;s Making Sense of Doctrine and Covenants 39-40; or why it matters that James Covill was a Methodist ... Research Interests: 18th/19th Century Transatlantic Religion/Culture; New England intellectual [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] degree sought): University of Chicago (MA, Religious Studies) Favorite JI post: Christopher&#8217;s Making Sense of Doctrine and Covenants 39-40; or why it matters that James Covill was a Methodist &#8230; Research Interests: 18th/19th Century Transatlantic Religion/Culture; New England intellectual [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45242</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question Mark.  The allusion of the text to Paul and his account of conversion at least hints at that.  Ananias, after healing Paul, tells him (Acts 22:16):   &quot;And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.&quot;

I did a quick google books search and that verbiage is ubiquitous; but it does appear to be used by baptists in conjunction with their particular beliefs.  E.g.&lt;em&gt;The Millennial Harbinger:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;Then we would say, &#039;Arise and be baptized;&#039; and in the liquid, emblematic grave of Jesus, &#039;wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.&#039;&quot;

It would take more work to see if it grew to have a particularly Baptist flavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question Mark.  The allusion of the text to Paul and his account of conversion at least hints at that.  Ananias, after healing Paul, tells him (Acts 22:16):   &#8220;And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did a quick google books search and that verbiage is ubiquitous; but it does appear to be used by baptists in conjunction with their particular beliefs.  E.g.<em>The Millennial Harbinger:</em>  &#8220;Then we would say, &#8216;Arise and be baptized;&#8217; and in the liquid, emblematic grave of Jesus, &#8216;wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>It would take more work to see if it grew to have a particularly Baptist flavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashurst-McGee</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45238</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashurst-McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that the &quot;arise&quot; part of &quot;arise and be baptized&quot; has a connotation of adult or believer baptism (an infant cannot really &quot;arise&quot;) or that it has a connotation of immersion baptism (arising to enter the waters of baptism rather than the passive reception of sprinkling)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that the &#8220;arise&#8221; part of &#8220;arise and be baptized&#8221; has a connotation of adult or believer baptism (an infant cannot really &#8220;arise&#8221;) or that it has a connotation of immersion baptism (arising to enter the waters of baptism rather than the passive reception of sprinkling)?</p>
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		<title>By: Researcher</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45156</link>
		<dc:creator>Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post.

I was very interested to find out recently that some of my ancestors lived in the area of Cane Ridge, Kentucky, which was one of the sites associated with the beginning of the Second Great Awakening. I wish I knew more about their involvement in the movement and what, if any, influence it had on their grandson joining the church years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post.</p>
<p>I was very interested to find out recently that some of my ancestors lived in the area of Cane Ridge, Kentucky, which was one of the sites associated with the beginning of the Second Great Awakening. I wish I knew more about their involvement in the movement and what, if any, influence it had on their grandson joining the church years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared T</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesomeness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesomeness!</p>
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		<title>By: Edje Jeter</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45122</link>
		<dc:creator>Edje Jeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, SC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, SC.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45120</link>
		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, congrats Taysom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, congrats Taysom.</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45109</link>
		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is mb doing baptism for his work on Mormon liturgy?
congrats to taysom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is mb doing baptism for his work on Mormon liturgy?<br />
congrats to taysom.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45091</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, congrats to Taysom!

With such a reading, D&amp;C 22 becomes a really fascinating response to anabaptist critiques.  Quite unique among anything I have read, really.  I&#039;ve been debating how to carve everything up, but have been toying with doing a paper on the context of baptism during this period as a prelude to a larger treatment of baptism in a book on rituals.  If anyone wants to co-author, let me know.  It could just as easily be a series of papers on Mormon baptism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, congrats to Taysom!</p>
<p>With such a reading, D&amp;C 22 becomes a really fascinating response to anabaptist critiques.  Quite unique among anything I have read, really.  I&#8217;ve been debating how to carve everything up, but have been toying with doing a paper on the context of baptism during this period as a prelude to a larger treatment of baptism in a book on rituals.  If anyone wants to co-author, let me know.  It could just as easily be a series of papers on Mormon baptism.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/making-sense-of-james-covill/comment-page-1/#comment-45090</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taysom&#039;s book will be published by Indiana University Press, and I think it is scheduled to appear in 2010 (correct me if I&#039;m wrong, SC).

J, that&#039;s how I read it, yes, which seems somewhat surprising to me in light of how modern Mormons view Christian baptism generally. The more I think about it, the more I&#039;m interested in a detailed historical analysis of baptism in the Mormon tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taysom&#8217;s book will be published by Indiana University Press, and I think it is scheduled to appear in 2010 (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, SC).</p>
<p>J, that&#8217;s how I read it, yes, which seems somewhat surprising to me in light of how modern Mormons view Christian baptism generally. The more I think about it, the more I&#8217;m interested in a detailed historical analysis of baptism in the Mormon tradition.</p>
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