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		<title>By: Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; My Nacle Notebook 2008: Interesting Comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; My Nacle Notebook 2008: Interesting Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comment on matt b.’s post In defense of the Pew survey: a recap at Juvenile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; From the Archives: Posts You Might Have Missed, June-August 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; From the Archives: Posts You Might Have Missed, June-August 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In Defense of the Pew Survey: A Recap [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; Poll: The Pew Forum and a Personal God</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/in-defense-of-the-pew-survey-a-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-10596</link>
		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; Poll: The Pew Forum and a Personal God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Pew Forum&#8217;s U.S. Religious Landscape Survey (discussed previously by Matt B. here and here). We discussed various issues, laughed at others, and expressed mild shock at still others. As [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Pew Forum&#8217;s U.S. Religious Landscape Survey (discussed previously by Matt B. here and here). We discussed various issues, laughed at others, and expressed mild shock at still others. As [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Thanks for this post. Now I don&#039;t have to write it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkinginamarrowbone.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/pew-forum-question-does-violence/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I also criticized the eternal life question&lt;/a&gt;, and then I felt bad after realizing how the whole survey really is quite valuable.

I still stand by what I&#039;ve said, though, about the eternal life question. The main comparative finding could be nothing more than that Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses see “my religion” and “my faith” in a more narrow way than other groups. This is important, but not quite what the Pew survey was aiming for, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for this post. Now I don&#8217;t have to write it. <a href="http://thinkinginamarrowbone.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/pew-forum-question-does-violence/" rel="nofollow">I also criticized the eternal life question</a>, and then I felt bad after realizing how the whole survey really is quite valuable.</p>
<p>I still stand by what I&#8217;ve said, though, about the eternal life question. The main comparative finding could be nothing more than that Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses see “my religion” and “my faith” in a more narrow way than other groups. This is important, but not quite what the Pew survey was aiming for, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Times &#38; Seasons &#187; Posts You Might Have Missed 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Times &#38; Seasons &#187; Posts You Might Have Missed 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a massive survey on American religious life conducted by the Pew Forum were released. Matt B. at JI summarizes some of the results: 581 Mormons were included in the survey population; the LDS Church has a surprisingly sharp gender [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Somewhere else I read that 75% of members are born into the faith, while 25% are converts. If so, and if the sex ratio of members at birth is close to 50 male/50 female, then that means something close to 80% of converts are women.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have certainly seen this potential statistic born out in my ward. Upwards of 2/3 of our converts are female. Giving the priesthood to men may keep our current members active, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be attracting new male converts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Somewhere else I read that 75% of members are born into the faith, while 25% are converts. If so, and if the sex ratio of members at birth is close to 50 male/50 female, then that means something close to 80% of converts are women.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have certainly seen this potential statistic born out in my ward. Upwards of 2/3 of our converts are female. Giving the priesthood to men may keep our current members active, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be attracting new male converts.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidH it would be interesting to see if &quot;heavily inactive members&quot; (say people who haven&#039;t been to church in 4+ years) are more apt to self-identify Mormon if they are women rather than men.  That is do women continue to identify themselves as Mormon even if not ascribing to many of the basic beliefs or practices while  men are more apt to just distance themselves entirely.

I think that&#039;s a useful distinction you bring up.

Having said that though I suspect it will simply turn out that women tend to be more religiously Mormon than men rather than it just being an artifact of how they self-identify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidH it would be interesting to see if &#8220;heavily inactive members&#8221; (say people who haven&#8217;t been to church in 4+ years) are more apt to self-identify Mormon if they are women rather than men.  That is do women continue to identify themselves as Mormon even if not ascribing to many of the basic beliefs or practices while  men are more apt to just distance themselves entirely.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a useful distinction you bring up.</p>
<p>Having said that though I suspect it will simply turn out that women tend to be more religiously Mormon than men rather than it just being an artifact of how they self-identify.</p>
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		<title>By: Sveta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sveta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose,

I think that 75%/25% number came from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/02/25/mormons-in-the-pew-report.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first release&lt;/a&gt; of the Pew report back in February.  The Pew report only covers the U.S.; Elder Pieper&#039;s figures presumably refer to the church worldwide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose,</p>
<p>I think that 75%/25% number came from the <a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/02/25/mormons-in-the-pew-report.htm" rel="nofollow">first release</a> of the Pew report back in February.  The Pew report only covers the U.S.; Elder Pieper&#8217;s figures presumably refer to the church worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Somewhere else I read that 75% of members are born into the faith, while 25% are converts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In general conference, Elder Pieper cited a figure of &lt;a href=&quot;http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=75af0d034ceae010VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;64%&lt;/a&gt; of church membership being first-generation mormons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Somewhere else I read that 75% of members are born into the faith, while 25% are converts.</p></blockquote>
<p>In general conference, Elder Pieper cited a figure of <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=75af0d034ceae010VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1" rel="nofollow">64%</a> of church membership being first-generation mormons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Great write-up, thanks.  I do think this survey is enormously valuable for the reasons you cite.  

&lt;em&gt;This may or may not imply something for the common Mormon meme about spiritual differences between the sexes; either it’s not true or giving the priesthood to men worked.&lt;/em&gt;

I nominate this as the most provocative statment in the bloggernacle this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Great write-up, thanks.  I do think this survey is enormously valuable for the reasons you cite.  </p>
<p><em>This may or may not imply something for the common Mormon meme about spiritual differences between the sexes; either it’s not true or giving the priesthood to men worked.</em></p>
<p>I nominate this as the most provocative statment in the bloggernacle this week.</p>
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