Comments on: Help Husband Get a Wife! http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: KVB http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3265 KVB Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:38:07 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3265 This song is great! I am glad that you guys post stuff like this. I think that it is funny that the only council given to women is to introduce their single friends to their husbands. This song is great! I am glad that you guys post stuff like this. I think that it is funny that the only council given to women is to introduce their single friends to their husbands.

]]> By: SC Taysom http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3238 SC Taysom Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:06:57 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3238 You're right David that there are sources from "regular" Mormons about the Reformation. I found a letter to Joseph F. Smith, who was then on his mission in Hawaii, from his brother in which he describes a Reformation meeting. I know the new trend is to emphasize the forgiveness and repentance elements of the time, but the tone of this letter is best described as scared as hell. You’re right David that there are sources from “regular” Mormons about the Reformation. I found a letter to Joseph F. Smith, who was then on his mission in Hawaii, from his brother in which he describes a Reformation meeting. I know the new trend is to emphasize the forgiveness and repentance elements of the time, but the tone of this letter is best described as scared as hell.

]]> By: David G. http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3234 David G. Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:04:55 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3234 Steve, I agree that would be an important and fascinating study. I think you're right that there likely aren't sources on this particular song, but I'd imagine that there are sources on what rank and file Mormons thought about the Reformation and its rhetoric as a whole. Steve, I agree that would be an important and fascinating study. I think you’re right that there likely aren’t sources on this particular song, but I’d imagine that there are sources on what rank and file Mormons thought about the Reformation and its rhetoric as a whole.

]]> By: SC Taysom http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3232 SC Taysom Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:23:03 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3232 I think David is right to be skeptical about reading a satirical intent into the writing or publication of the song. It is possible however that some (many?) saints took it as satire, or at least as something to laugh at. A reader's response study would be useful, but I doubt if the sources exist to conduct one. I think David is right to be skeptical about reading a satirical intent into the writing or publication of the song. It is possible however that some (many?) saints took it as satire, or at least as something to laugh at. A reader’s response study would be useful, but I doubt if the sources exist to conduct one.

]]> By: David G. http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3231 David G. Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:09:18 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3231 BiV: I'd side with the former option. Since we don't know who actually wrote the song or their motivations behind it, I'm hesitant to assume that it was a satire, although the person performing it obviously didn't believe in plural marriage. As Justin said, it reproduces many of the themes in the Reformation Catechism and I have a hard time believing that the DesNews would print a satire of the Reformation at the height of the Reformation. BiV: I’d side with the former option. Since we don’t know who actually wrote the song or their motivations behind it, I’m hesitant to assume that it was a satire, although the person performing it obviously didn’t believe in plural marriage. As Justin said, it reproduces many of the themes in the Reformation Catechism and I have a hard time believing that the DesNews would print a satire of the Reformation at the height of the Reformation.

]]> By: Bored in Vernal http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3225 Bored in Vernal Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:35:13 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3225 Do you think that this song supports the contention that early Mormons believed plural marriage was necessary for exaltation, or is it negated by the possibility that the ballad was satiric? Do you think that this song supports the contention that early Mormons believed plural marriage was necessary for exaltation, or is it negated by the possibility that the ballad was satiric?

]]> By: SC Taysom http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3222 SC Taysom Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:58:16 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3222 I don't know of any studies that focus on gender issues in connection with the Reformation, although it sounds like a very interesting idea for someone with the background in rhetoric and gender studies to undertake. I don’t know of any studies that focus on gender issues in connection with the Reformation, although it sounds like a very interesting idea for someone with the background in rhetoric and gender studies to undertake.

]]> By: David G. http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3221 David G. Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:35:35 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3221 Thanks, Chris, I noticed that disparity as well. I wonder, Steve, if there has ever been a genderic analysis of the Reformation rhetoric, or Mormon rhetoric in general? Thanks, Chris, I noticed that disparity as well. I wonder, Steve, if there has ever been a genderic analysis of the Reformation rhetoric, or Mormon rhetoric in general?

]]> By: Christopher http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3218 Christopher Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:35:06 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3218 Thanks, Taysom. On a more serious note, this ballad is quite telling in its marginalization of the woman's importance and role in society. The other verses in the ballad exhort the men to be diligent in study, prayer, and preaching, but the woman's only duty is to enter into plural marriage. Thanks, Taysom.

On a more serious note, this ballad is quite telling in its marginalization of the woman’s importance and role in society. The other verses in the ballad exhort the men to be diligent in study, prayer, and preaching, but the woman’s only duty is to enter into plural marriage.

]]> By: SC Taysom http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-3217 SC Taysom Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:58:51 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/help-husband-get-a-wife/#comment-3217 Chris, I didn't come across too many of these songs in my work on the Reformation. If my memory serves, I remember seeing the one David included in here and one or two more. I wasn't looking for them though, so it's possible that I may have missed them, but my sense is that they weren't all that common. Chris,
I didn’t come across too many of these songs in my work on the Reformation. If my memory serves, I remember seeing the one David included in here and one or two more. I wasn’t looking for them though, so it’s possible that I may have missed them, but my sense is that they weren’t all that common.

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