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	<title>Comments on: Glenn Beck and the Revivalism of Mormon Millenarianism?</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn Beck An Embarrasment To Mormons&#8211;Perpetuates Harmful, Untrue Stereotypes &#171; Messenger and Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Beck An Embarrasment To Mormons&#8211;Perpetuates Harmful, Untrue Stereotypes &#171; Messenger and Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jared T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, Lew, and since the Jonas Bros. are also performing at the Stadium of Fire, I guess that reaffirms their status as Church spokesmen too. A step down from Miley Cyrus&#039; ambassadorship last year. Great thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Lew, and since the Jonas Bros. are also performing at the Stadium of Fire, I guess that reaffirms their status as Church spokesmen too. A step down from Miley Cyrus&#8217; ambassadorship last year. Great thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that Beck is hosting this year&#039;s Stadium of Fire, reaffirming his status as a Church spokesman.  As an aside I think the Church leadership is as conservative as ETB was, considering that they don&#039;t have any problem with hosting Sean Hannity on their radio stations.  Things really haven&#039;t changed much from when I was a kid, except for blacks and the priesthood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Beck is hosting this year&#8217;s Stadium of Fire, reaffirming his status as a Church spokesman.  As an aside I think the Church leadership is as conservative as ETB was, considering that they don&#8217;t have any problem with hosting Sean Hannity on their radio stations.  Things really haven&#8217;t changed much from when I was a kid, except for blacks and the priesthood.</p>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; &#8220;The government is the devil&#8221;: Glenn Beck and Mormonism Redux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; &#8220;The government is the devil&#8221;: Glenn Beck and Mormonism Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a follow up to my post on Glenn Beck&#8217;s drawing upon a certain strain of Mormon apocalyptic folklore in articulating [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Coffinberry</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/glenn-beck-and-the-revivalism-of-mormon-millenarianism/comment-page-2/#comment-32924</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffinberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raedyohed,

I suspect &quot;Beck et al.&quot; would answer A, as would a lot of other LDS people, but the nuance of what is meant might vary a lot.

I think the root he reason why LDS people would feel the U.S. Constitution is special and deserving of care and attention is found in LDS scripture which teaches that God himself established the Constitution. (See Doctrine &amp; Covenants 101:77, 80.) 

The too-frequent (and perhaps lazy or over-simplified) extrapolation which inflates that scriptural statement into a worldview that elevates the Constitution to some sort of holy, unchangeable, canonical document misses other passages of LDS scripture that clarify or specify exactly what it is about the Constitution that is special and should be preserved. Specifically, the unique defense-worthy character of the Constitution lies in that portion which &quot;support[s] that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges,&quot; and it &quot;belongs to all mankind.&quot; (Doctrine &amp; Covenants 98:5]. 

To me, then, the thing that is most important about the Constitution is its fundamental support for the principle of individual agency and choice. These statements correspond to Article of Faith 11, which avers that Mormons believe we should let all people &quot;worship how, where, or what they may.&quot;

Sometimes, it seems like those who stump the hardest for &quot;preserve and protect the Constitution&quot; are doing so to accomplish exactly the opposite purpose that the most vital part of the Constitution is meant to accomplish.

I am also very aware I am in the minority in thinking this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raedyohed,</p>
<p>I suspect &#8220;Beck et al.&#8221; would answer A, as would a lot of other LDS people, but the nuance of what is meant might vary a lot.</p>
<p>I think the root he reason why LDS people would feel the U.S. Constitution is special and deserving of care and attention is found in LDS scripture which teaches that God himself established the Constitution. (See Doctrine &amp; Covenants 101:77, 80.) </p>
<p>The too-frequent (and perhaps lazy or over-simplified) extrapolation which inflates that scriptural statement into a worldview that elevates the Constitution to some sort of holy, unchangeable, canonical document misses other passages of LDS scripture that clarify or specify exactly what it is about the Constitution that is special and should be preserved. Specifically, the unique defense-worthy character of the Constitution lies in that portion which &#8220;support[s] that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges,&#8221; and it &#8220;belongs to all mankind.&#8221; (Doctrine &amp; Covenants 98:5]. </p>
<p>To me, then, the thing that is most important about the Constitution is its fundamental support for the principle of individual agency and choice. These statements correspond to Article of Faith 11, which avers that Mormons believe we should let all people &#8220;worship how, where, or what they may.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes, it seems like those who stump the hardest for &#8220;preserve and protect the Constitution&#8221; are doing so to accomplish exactly the opposite purpose that the most vital part of the Constitution is meant to accomplish.</p>
<p>I am also very aware I am in the minority in thinking this.</p>
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		<title>By: Raedyohed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raedyohed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel’s distinction (#55) is well placed, and in light of David G.’s comment (#56) contrasts the main thrust of my inquiry.  That is, whether or not a distinction ought to be made between “inspired” and “Holy” vis a vis the Constitution, and whether or not LDS General Authorities have consistently made such a distinction, is such a distinction important in our understanding of Beck et al.’s Constitutional position and passion?    In other words: would Beck et al. answer a, b, c, d, or e, and is that answer central to his appeal (wisdom aside) among both Mormons and other Christian demographics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel’s distinction (#55) is well placed, and in light of David G.’s comment (#56) contrasts the main thrust of my inquiry.  That is, whether or not a distinction ought to be made between “inspired” and “Holy” vis a vis the Constitution, and whether or not LDS General Authorities have consistently made such a distinction, is such a distinction important in our understanding of Beck et al.’s Constitutional position and passion?    In other words: would Beck et al. answer a, b, c, d, or e, and is that answer central to his appeal (wisdom aside) among both Mormons and other Christian demographics?</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Joel, but just to complicate things, I believe that ETB equated the Constitution to scripture (I at least had a couple of BYU profs paraphrase him that way), but I&#039;m not sure it is wise to take ETB&#039;s opinions as anything close to being an official position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Joel, but just to complicate things, I believe that ETB equated the Constitution to scripture (I at least had a couple of BYU profs paraphrase him that way), but I&#8217;m not sure it is wise to take ETB&#8217;s opinions as anything close to being an official position.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raedyohed,

I think that the official position of the brethren is that the Constitution is an inspired, not a holy document. I think this is the only way to justify its active support of slavery and white supremacy. To label it as holy is tantamount to canonization which I would completely reject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raedyohed,</p>
<p>I think that the official position of the brethren is that the Constitution is an inspired, not a holy document. I think this is the only way to justify its active support of slavery and white supremacy. To label it as holy is tantamount to canonization which I would completely reject.</p>
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		<title>By: Raedyohed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raedyohed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of curiosity, and so I can read the discussions in this thread with a clearer lens: to what extent is the following statement (from comment #29) generally accepted among the commenters?

“psuedo-Mormonism like the US Constitution being a holy document”

I find this relevant for two reasons; 1) the notion of the sacred/holy nature of the U.S. Constitution is not up for debate, according to Beck and his audience, and 2) the notion of the sacred/holy nature of the U.S. Constitution seems to be generally settled among LDS leadership, if not among the membership.

The relevance here can hardly be overlooked, since Christopher’s initial intent was, I think, to get at the appeal of Beck’s constitutional Mormon fundamentalism (fair to coin that term?).  I think it reasonable to assume, at least in part, that the foundation of Beck’s world view is set upon the bedrock of the divine origins of the Constitution as a document.

In short: U.S. Constitution = Holy document?
a)	Official LDS doctrine
b)	Cultural LDS mindset
c)	Mormon folklore
d)	Fringe fundamentalist staple
e)	Any combination of the above

Other follow-ups:
To what extent is the concept of Divine Constitutionalism central to other Mormon sub-cultures or political strata?
In what ways do personal (read: partly line) political views affect the interpretation of the divine nature of the U.S. Constitution?
Are differences among political ideologies surrounding the meaning of the Constitution deep enough to negate the utility of holding it up as a Holy document?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, and so I can read the discussions in this thread with a clearer lens: to what extent is the following statement (from comment #29) generally accepted among the commenters?</p>
<p>“psuedo-Mormonism like the US Constitution being a holy document”</p>
<p>I find this relevant for two reasons; 1) the notion of the sacred/holy nature of the U.S. Constitution is not up for debate, according to Beck and his audience, and 2) the notion of the sacred/holy nature of the U.S. Constitution seems to be generally settled among LDS leadership, if not among the membership.</p>
<p>The relevance here can hardly be overlooked, since Christopher’s initial intent was, I think, to get at the appeal of Beck’s constitutional Mormon fundamentalism (fair to coin that term?).  I think it reasonable to assume, at least in part, that the foundation of Beck’s world view is set upon the bedrock of the divine origins of the Constitution as a document.</p>
<p>In short: U.S. Constitution = Holy document?<br />
a)	Official LDS doctrine<br />
b)	Cultural LDS mindset<br />
c)	Mormon folklore<br />
d)	Fringe fundamentalist staple<br />
e)	Any combination of the above</p>
<p>Other follow-ups:<br />
To what extent is the concept of Divine Constitutionalism central to other Mormon sub-cultures or political strata?<br />
In what ways do personal (read: partly line) political views affect the interpretation of the divine nature of the U.S. Constitution?<br />
Are differences among political ideologies surrounding the meaning of the Constitution deep enough to negate the utility of holding it up as a Holy document?</p>
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		<title>By: Desert Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desert Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like all things in Politics and life, you need two extreme opposing views in order to have a level minded, logical, prosperous, righteous compromise.  
We need Beck and Cooper, Clinton and Cheney, Hatch and Jackson, Limbaugh and Stewart, Dawkins and Stein and other polarizing figures in order to form a more perfect union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like all things in Politics and life, you need two extreme opposing views in order to have a level minded, logical, prosperous, righteous compromise.<br />
We need Beck and Cooper, Clinton and Cheney, Hatch and Jackson, Limbaugh and Stewart, Dawkins and Stein and other polarizing figures in order to form a more perfect union.</p>
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