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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; Movie Review: Emma Smith: A Really Great Catch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; Movie Review: Emma Smith: A Really Great Catch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Emma Smith&#8217;s life, I would probably have enjoyed the show with no complaints.As I noted in my post describing the trailer, it&#8217;s obvious that the Church has had a hand in the making of Emma [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Emma Smith&#8217;s life, I would probably have enjoyed the show with no complaints.As I noted in my post describing the trailer, it&#8217;s obvious that the Church has had a hand in the making of Emma [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/emma-smith-my-edited-story/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan: From what I can tell, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://orleck.byu.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/6pHSGT5UD9/LEE/41670006/9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first edition&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; (1984, Doubleday) subtitle was &lt;em&gt; Emma Hale Smith, Prophet&#039;s Wife, &quot;Elect Lady,&quot; Polygamy&#039;s Foe &lt;/em&gt;. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Mormon-Enigma-Emma-Hale-Smith/dp/0252062914/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9819304-9904953?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193584702&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;second edition&lt;/a&gt; (1994, Illinois) was simply subtitled &lt;em&gt; Emma Smith &lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan: From what I can tell, the <a href="http://orleck.byu.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/6pHSGT5UD9/LEE/41670006/9" rel="nofollow">first edition&#8217;s</a> (1984, Doubleday) subtitle was <em> Emma Hale Smith, Prophet&#8217;s Wife, &#8220;Elect Lady,&#8221; Polygamy&#8217;s Foe </em>. The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormon-Enigma-Emma-Hale-Smith/dp/0252062914/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9819304-9904953?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1193584702&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">second edition</a> (1994, Illinois) was simply subtitled <em> Emma Smith </em>.</p>
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		<title>By: stanthayne</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/emma-smith-my-edited-story/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>stanthayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a new subititle on the Doubleday edition of Mormon Enigma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a new subititle on the Doubleday edition of Mormon Enigma?</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/emma-smith-my-edited-story/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the list, Bret.  Of the books on it, the one that provides the best historical perspective in my opinion on Emma is Mormon Enigma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the list, Bret.  Of the books on it, the one that provides the best historical perspective in my opinion on Emma is Mormon Enigma.</p>
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		<title>By: Swally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone intersted in learning more about Emma Smith, there are a number of biographies of her life.  See the list here:

http://www.ldsbooklovers.com/collections.asp?pid=298&amp;f=ji</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone intersted in learning more about Emma Smith, there are a number of biographies of her life.  See the list here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ldsbooklovers.com/collections.asp?pid=298&#038;f=ji" rel="nofollow">http://www.ldsbooklovers.com/collections.asp?pid=298&#038;f=ji</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/emma-smith-my-edited-story/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think further studies regarding the memory of Emma would be very appropriate. I would like to propose a study of the memory of Emma&#039;s hair. Did she really always wear her hair in those curls? While playing chess? Sleeping? Doing the laundry? During the Missouri persecutions? Could Emma&#039;s high maintenance be a significant (and overlooked till now) reason in her not going west with the Brighamites? The dry heat of the Utah desert just wouldn&#039;t support her hairstyle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think further studies regarding the memory of Emma would be very appropriate. I would like to propose a study of the memory of Emma&#8217;s hair. Did she really always wear her hair in those curls? While playing chess? Sleeping? Doing the laundry? During the Missouri persecutions? Could Emma&#8217;s high maintenance be a significant (and overlooked till now) reason in her not going west with the Brighamites? The dry heat of the Utah desert just wouldn&#8217;t support her hairstyle?</p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan: Thanks for playing along. I like the direction that you&#039;re taking this discussion. The problem in my view, however, is the vocabulary that you&#039;re using. Myth has such a negative connotation among ordinary folks that any kind of dialogue that seeks to extend beyond academic circles (or snooty blogs) gets hijacked from the outset.

A term that I think conveys the same or equivalent message as myth is collective memory. Memory, from what I&#039;ve seen, interests both academics and lay people.

I think that we need more discussions concerning how Emma Smith has been represented in Mormon memory since the death of JS. Only then can we situate our current representations of her in a longer, and more informed, chronology. SC Taysom&#039;s 2002 &lt;em&gt; Dialogue &lt;/em&gt; article on the memory of JS&#039;s polygamy provides a preliminary investigation into how Mormons from Brigham Young to the 1990s have imagined Emma Smith. But more work needs to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan: Thanks for playing along. I like the direction that you&#8217;re taking this discussion. The problem in my view, however, is the vocabulary that you&#8217;re using. Myth has such a negative connotation among ordinary folks that any kind of dialogue that seeks to extend beyond academic circles (or snooty blogs) gets hijacked from the outset.</p>
<p>A term that I think conveys the same or equivalent message as myth is collective memory. Memory, from what I&#8217;ve seen, interests both academics and lay people.</p>
<p>I think that we need more discussions concerning how Emma Smith has been represented in Mormon memory since the death of JS. Only then can we situate our current representations of her in a longer, and more informed, chronology. SC Taysom&#8217;s 2002 <em> Dialogue </em> article on the memory of JS&#8217;s polygamy provides a preliminary investigation into how Mormons from Brigham Young to the 1990s have imagined Emma Smith. But more work needs to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: stanthayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>stanthayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if &quot;sanitized history&quot; is the best term for this. It seems like &quot;myth&quot; might be more descriptive. Myth doesn&#039;t set out to portray a comprehensive, detailed picture of what really happened, in detail, but is a narrative organized in a way that is meaningful to its audience. The intention behind most public portrayals of the Mormon myth is to promote faith by stirring the emotions, or, in other words, by creating an environment in which the spirit can witness of truth claims attached to these events. I think we may be wanting this to be something it isn&#039;t, practicing, perhaps, transgenre criticism?

Personally, however, my favorite portrayal to date remains Mormon Enigma. But you really have got to get a whole picture, I think, to put Emma&#039;s difficulties in perspective, and a lot of people just don&#039;t typically put forth the time and effort to gain it. So its left out. Perhaps there is a better way to incorporate it into the myth. I think it could present a deeper, more complex picture. But it would probably take longer than the 15-minute visitor center feature length.

p.s. I don&#039;t really know what a myth is, just wanted to play along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if &#8220;sanitized history&#8221; is the best term for this. It seems like &#8220;myth&#8221; might be more descriptive. Myth doesn&#8217;t set out to portray a comprehensive, detailed picture of what really happened, in detail, but is a narrative organized in a way that is meaningful to its audience. The intention behind most public portrayals of the Mormon myth is to promote faith by stirring the emotions, or, in other words, by creating an environment in which the spirit can witness of truth claims attached to these events. I think we may be wanting this to be something it isn&#8217;t, practicing, perhaps, transgenre criticism?</p>
<p>Personally, however, my favorite portrayal to date remains Mormon Enigma. But you really have got to get a whole picture, I think, to put Emma&#8217;s difficulties in perspective, and a lot of people just don&#8217;t typically put forth the time and effort to gain it. So its left out. Perhaps there is a better way to incorporate it into the myth. I think it could present a deeper, more complex picture. But it would probably take longer than the 15-minute visitor center feature length.</p>
<p>p.s. I don&#8217;t really know what a myth is, just wanted to play along.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To speak to your question, Ben, as far as devotional, &quot;faith promoting&quot; things go, I think it depends on what your faith is based on. I don&#039;t think that &quot;sanitized&quot; history is the only history that promotes faith (though it may for the majority). If our faith is based largely on sanitized material, then sanatized material will &quot;promote&quot; that faith.  If our faith is based on more historically accurate material, then the same will promote our faith.

I know a student who attended a Church History class taught by one of the most popular lecturers the Religion Dept. has.  He said that most students swooned, but he felt there were many distortions and dramatizations of the history that could have been just as easily and upliftingly presented in a more historically accurate fashion.  He came away from the experience disheartened.  It didn&#039;t &quot;promote&quot; his faith, but his faith was based on something different.

My point is, that I think there is a certain healthiness in promoting faith, whatever that faith may be based on. In the short run, many need reinforcement based on &quot;sanitized&quot; material.  There is value in that since the Church, as well as most religious organizations, needs a certain amount of spiritual stability collectively to function.  In the long run, though, I think we can only gain as a people by gradually being brought to understand a more historically accurate version of these events and basing our faith on that.

So, is there a place for sanatized history? In my opinion yes.  Is it ok to pick holes in it? Also yes. That process also promotes the faith of some, and that&#039;s important too.  Those that poke holes, however, like myself, need to constantly remind ourselves that, as David put it, it&#039;s a delicate thing to mess with someone&#039;s religious construct, and great care must be taken.

Bushman&#039;s book has had a mixed reception from the rank and file to the general authorities.  It&#039;s his right to produce a work that promotes a type of faith as well as it&#039;s Gracia Jones&#039; right to produce a work that promotes a type of faith (whether it be her books, her lectures, or her role in this movie).  Both have a role.  I think, though, that when pitted head to head, each person will have to make personal decisions about which is truer.  Eventually, I say again, I think that a sensitive shift from &quot;sanitized&quot; to &quot;more accurate&quot; portrayal of Church history will only benefit us as a people.

I suspect that the &quot;tearing&quot; feeling you feel is the tension between knowing that sanitized history has a place and also believing that a non-sanitized history is ultimately preferrable.  At least, that&#039;s what it is for me.

So, do I make better nachos than philosophy? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To speak to your question, Ben, as far as devotional, &#8220;faith promoting&#8221; things go, I think it depends on what your faith is based on. I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;sanitized&#8221; history is the only history that promotes faith (though it may for the majority). If our faith is based largely on sanitized material, then sanatized material will &#8220;promote&#8221; that faith.  If our faith is based on more historically accurate material, then the same will promote our faith.</p>
<p>I know a student who attended a Church History class taught by one of the most popular lecturers the Religion Dept. has.  He said that most students swooned, but he felt there were many distortions and dramatizations of the history that could have been just as easily and upliftingly presented in a more historically accurate fashion.  He came away from the experience disheartened.  It didn&#8217;t &#8220;promote&#8221; his faith, but his faith was based on something different.</p>
<p>My point is, that I think there is a certain healthiness in promoting faith, whatever that faith may be based on. In the short run, many need reinforcement based on &#8220;sanitized&#8221; material.  There is value in that since the Church, as well as most religious organizations, needs a certain amount of spiritual stability collectively to function.  In the long run, though, I think we can only gain as a people by gradually being brought to understand a more historically accurate version of these events and basing our faith on that.</p>
<p>So, is there a place for sanatized history? In my opinion yes.  Is it ok to pick holes in it? Also yes. That process also promotes the faith of some, and that&#8217;s important too.  Those that poke holes, however, like myself, need to constantly remind ourselves that, as David put it, it&#8217;s a delicate thing to mess with someone&#8217;s religious construct, and great care must be taken.</p>
<p>Bushman&#8217;s book has had a mixed reception from the rank and file to the general authorities.  It&#8217;s his right to produce a work that promotes a type of faith as well as it&#8217;s Gracia Jones&#8217; right to produce a work that promotes a type of faith (whether it be her books, her lectures, or her role in this movie).  Both have a role.  I think, though, that when pitted head to head, each person will have to make personal decisions about which is truer.  Eventually, I say again, I think that a sensitive shift from &#8220;sanitized&#8221; to &#8220;more accurate&#8221; portrayal of Church history will only benefit us as a people.</p>
<p>I suspect that the &#8220;tearing&#8221; feeling you feel is the tension between knowing that sanitized history has a place and also believing that a non-sanitized history is ultimately preferrable.  At least, that&#8217;s what it is for me.</p>
<p>So, do I make better nachos than philosophy? <img src='http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Grua</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mormon History 1830: Given the recent talk concerning &quot;innoculating&quot; the Saints, I can see your point about offering a more complex image of Emma Smith. I think it is possible to present that more nuanced portrait without shocking too many Mormons. &lt;em&gt; Rough Stone Rolling &lt;/em&gt; of course comes to mind as a way to do that.

Benjaminp: Thanks for sharing that information about Gracia Jones. I was unaware that she is the historical consultant. I think that you raise a good question about navigating between presenting a complex image that at the same time builds faith. I think it&#039;s possible, but it needs to be done with delicacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mormon History 1830: Given the recent talk concerning &#8220;innoculating&#8221; the Saints, I can see your point about offering a more complex image of Emma Smith. I think it is possible to present that more nuanced portrait without shocking too many Mormons. <em> Rough Stone Rolling </em> of course comes to mind as a way to do that.</p>
<p>Benjaminp: Thanks for sharing that information about Gracia Jones. I was unaware that she is the historical consultant. I think that you raise a good question about navigating between presenting a complex image that at the same time builds faith. I think it&#8217;s possible, but it needs to be done with delicacy.</p>
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