Comments on: Book Review: Images of the New Jerusalem http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Christopher http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4856 Christopher Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:08:31 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4856 Craig, I know a few of us here at the Juvenile Instructor are aware of the Remnant Church and Fred Larson, and are very interested. I will look forward to your research. Craig, I know a few of us here at the Juvenile Instructor are aware of the Remnant Church and Fred Larson, and are very interested. I will look forward to your research.

]]> By: Craig http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4849 Craig Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:37:23 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4849 Also, when I was completing my dissertation at Kansas, Waugh was completing his, also in geography. I saw his session at our national conference in Ft. Worth and was taken aback at first. "He's doing my dissertation!", I thought, at first suspicious and a little defensive of my turf. But his approach was different, naturally. It seemed more in a theoretical and regional context whereas mine seemed more detail and content oriented. It was bizarre though that we were doing similar topics simultaneously. Also, when I was completing my dissertation at Kansas, Waugh was completing his, also in geography. I saw his session at our national conference in Ft. Worth and was taken aback at first. “He’s doing my dissertation!”, I thought, at first suspicious and a little defensive of my turf. But his approach was different, naturally. It seemed more in a theoretical and regional context whereas mine seemed more detail and content oriented. It was bizarre though that we were doing similar topics simultaneously.

]]> By: Craig http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4848 Craig Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:29:57 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4848 As department chair there's not much time lately to be scholarly. Oddly enough I'm involved with the automobile in American culture. I'm currently organizing a symposium on the Automobile at YSU (April 25-26). Many notables are coming. I teach a course on the automobile and have considered a book on it. But you probably didn't want to hear that. I am still involved giving papers on aspects of Independence, the latest at the National Council on Public History. Lately, I've been fascinated with the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, an RLDS splinter which has now organized around Frederick N. Larson a grandson of Frederick M. Smith. So the church maintains legitimacy by having a blood relative of Joseph, Jr. It also has snatched sacred space in the old William Chrisman school right catty-corner next to the Temple Lot. I know Fred Larson somewhat and have considered moving forward with doing more on this. As department chair there’s not much time lately to be scholarly. Oddly enough I’m involved with the automobile in American culture. I’m currently organizing a symposium on the Automobile at YSU (April 25-26). Many notables are coming. I teach a course on the automobile and have considered a book on it. But you probably didn’t want to hear that.

I am still involved giving papers on aspects of Independence, the latest at the National Council on Public History. Lately, I’ve been fascinated with the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, an RLDS splinter which has now organized around Frederick N. Larson a grandson of Frederick M. Smith. So the church maintains legitimacy by having a blood relative of Joseph, Jr. It also has snatched sacred space in the old William Chrisman school right catty-corner next to the Temple Lot. I know Fred Larson somewhat and have considered moving forward with doing more on this.

]]> By: David G. http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4811 David G. Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:54:44 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4811 Craig, thanks for stopping by and for the comment. What's your next book project? Craig, thanks for stopping by and for the comment. What’s your next book project?

]]> By: smb http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4808 smb Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:04:40 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4808 jared t, no, not thinking of olsen's phd. found it: Richard Waugh, 1995, Sacred Space and the Persistence of Identity. Wisconsin-Madison. jared t, no, not thinking of olsen’s phd.

found it: Richard Waugh, 1995, Sacred Space and the Persistence of Identity. Wisconsin-Madison.

]]> By: Craig http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4806 Craig Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:19:07 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4806 Hi everyone. I just found your discussion of my book and enjoyed it all. A few comments. My book is not the first work to put Mormon history in geographic perspective. First was Donald Meinig's article in the Annals of the AAG in 1965 which has many fascinating maps, though it is out of date now. Also BYU's own Dr. Jackson who also discussed the perception of the geography of the settlement of the west. About the possibility of groups uniting to build Zion - I would say it is a mathematical impossibility, because the groups are so distinct. The Community of Christ, for example is hardly millennial at all. The Church of Christ - Temple Lot sees itself as the beleaguered small church that will someday show the bigger churches how the New Jerusalem will sprout from its small 2.5 acre parcel. Hi everyone. I just found your discussion of my book and enjoyed it all. A few comments. My book is not the first work to put Mormon history in geographic perspective. First was Donald Meinig’s article in the Annals of the AAG in 1965 which has many fascinating maps, though it is out of date now. Also BYU’s own Dr. Jackson who also discussed the perception of the geography of the settlement of the west. About the possibility of groups uniting to build Zion – I would say it is a mathematical impossibility, because the groups are so distinct. The Community of Christ, for example is hardly millennial at all. The Church of Christ – Temple Lot sees itself as the beleaguered small church that will someday show the bigger churches how the New Jerusalem will sprout from its small 2.5 acre parcel.

]]> By: Jared T http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4638 Jared T Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:08:55 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4638 smb, you may or may not be thinking of Steven L. Olsen's <a href="http://mormonhistory.byu.edu/search/aolsen/aolsen/13%2C22%2C56%2CB/frameset&FF=aolsen+steven+l&8%2C%2C14/indexsort=-" rel="nofollow">dissy.</a> I've had a chance to leaf through the book and it's one that I've had in my mind that I want to revisit with more care. Ben, do you remember any discussion in the book about LDS, RLDS, and Temple Lot groups (or any other groups) bringing up the possibility of uniting to build the temple of Zion? smb, you may or may not be thinking of Steven L. Olsen’s dissy.

I’ve had a chance to leaf through the book and it’s one that I’ve had in my mind that I want to revisit with more care. Ben, do you remember any discussion in the book about LDS, RLDS, and Temple Lot groups (or any other groups) bringing up the possibility of uniting to build the temple of Zion?

]]> By: smb http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4635 smb Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:34:51 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4635 i may have to give it another look. thanks, ben. i do have this weird allergy to academic geography. also, there's a PhD diss from a decade or so back that looked at notions of sacred space among rlds and lds. this AM can't remember the relevant names. i may have to give it another look. thanks, ben. i do have this weird allergy to academic geography. also, there’s a PhD diss from a decade or so back that looked at notions of sacred space among rlds and lds. this AM can’t remember the relevant names.

]]> By: Ben http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4631 Ben Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:31:50 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4631 smb: I had the same feelings in the first little while, mostly because it was covering early views of Independence which I was already well aware of (and I am sure it is the same for you). It became much more interesting for me when it covered the Utah period as well as when it covered CofC and RLDS views. smb: I had the same feelings in the first little while, mostly because it was covering early views of Independence which I was already well aware of (and I am sure it is the same for you). It became much more interesting for me when it covered the Utah period as well as when it covered CofC and RLDS views.

]]> By: smb http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-4627 smb Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:39:42 +0000 http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/book-review-images-of-the-new-jerusalem/#comment-4627 I read the first 25 pages, got bored, and then skimmed and then gave up. I don't tend to do well with academic geography, though. I read the first 25 pages, got bored, and then skimmed and then gave up. I don’t tend to do well with academic geography, though.

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