Comments on: Book Review: House of Mourning, A Biocultural History of the Mountain Meadows Massacre

By: Pioneer Day and Mountain Meadows « CJK

Pioneer Day and Mountain Meadows « CJK — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:47:03 +0000

[...] House of Mourning: A Biocultural History of the Mountain Meadows Massacre (reviewed here by Jared T.), and Lars Rodseth commented in a 2006 article on the problem Mountain Meadows presents [...]

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By: Juvenile Instructor » BYU Studies: MMM Edition

Juvenile Instructor » BYU Studies: MMM Edition — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:31:16 +0000

[...] Book review of Shannon A. Novak’s House of Mourning: A Biocultural History of the Mountain Meadows Massacre by Joel C. Janetski (reviewed at the Juvenile Instructor by Jared T. here). [...]

By: Paul Clark

Paul Clark — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:55:13 +0000

Jared, I am pleased to have stumbled onto this wesite. I am interested in understanding better the relationship of the overall Utah War and the MMM.

By: Reader

Reader — Sun, 04 May 2008 00:19:01 +0000

I have read the Turley-Walker-Leonard manuscript. There is no hatchet job, and in some ways their treatment of the Arkansans is more sympathetic than Bagley’s. Certainly it is less syrupy — anybody else remember Bagley’s description of the Arkansans’ camp, with the beautiful American mothers bending gracefully over their cookfires, dabbing delicately at their glowing brows, their benevolent smiles on the fair lads and lassies who frolicked merrily among the wagons under the watchful care of their stacked and packed American fathers? Puh-leeze. That scene was so overdrawn and tender that it would have gagged Norman Rockwell.

By: smb

smb — Sun, 04 May 2008 00:14:32 +0000

Seth, that’s Faust’s Republic of Suffering. A good read. My book on early Mormon death culture (still in revisions) will situate them within the broader death culture (generally called the “Good Death.”)

By: Will Bagley

Will Bagley — Sat, 03 May 2008 23:04:47 +0000

“She argues that even the best works on the subject (which she considers to be Bagley and Bigler) do not say enough about the victims, but focus on the perpetrators.”

I was a reader for “House of Mourning”: in my comments, I suppose I didn’t stress that this passage was unfair. Chapter 4 of _Blood of the Prophets_, “The Arkansas Travelers,” contains almost 7,000 words on the members of the party–all of it original research never used in any previous book on the awful tale–and following chapters contain a wealth of new information about the Fancher train.

This is not to take anything away from Dr. Novak’s monumental work, which is brilliant.

Wait till you see the hatchet job Ron Walker does on the Arkansans. And you thought the original story was disgusting….

Will Bagley

By: Juvenile Instructor » Book Review: Shall Millions Now Know Brother Joseph Again? (Post Script)

Sat, 03 May 2008 16:32:35 +0000

[...] grateful. What must also be recognized is that it’s time to turn it over to the pros. I reviewed Shannon Novak’s history of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, and was astounded at what she was [...]

By: Clark

Clark — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:29:21 +0000

I don’t know if there was a post but the civil war sure changed funerary arrangements at a minimum.

By: Seth R.

Seth R. — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:31:29 +0000

Wasn’t there a bloggernacle post a while back on attitudes toward death and burial in early 1800s America and how the Civil War impacted those views and all that?