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		<title>By: PJD</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-12699</link>
		<dc:creator>PJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s funny that everybody, (in order to remain politically correct, neutral, whatever), seeks to find excuses with polygamy.  
Hey, I come from polygamist lines and I&#039;ll SHOUT IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS!  I can&#039;t imagine what the church would be like today without those large strong families to anchor the small, fragile, latter day saint existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s funny that everybody, (in order to remain politically correct, neutral, whatever), seeks to find excuses with polygamy.<br />
Hey, I come from polygamist lines and I&#8217;ll SHOUT IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS!  I can&#8217;t imagine what the church would be like today without those large strong families to anchor the small, fragile, latter day saint existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-12684</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the same experience with commenting at DesNews on other topics, Cowboy (trade with China, among others). Nice to know that it isn&#039;t just me, that it&#039;s the DesNews&#039;s odd sense of what is appropriate -- although on hot button Mormon threads they seem to allow as much poison as the Trib does. Bizarre little newspaper all the way around, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the same experience with commenting at DesNews on other topics, Cowboy (trade with China, among others). Nice to know that it isn&#8217;t just me, that it&#8217;s the DesNews&#8217;s odd sense of what is appropriate &#8212; although on hot button Mormon threads they seem to allow as much poison as the Trib does. Bizarre little newspaper all the way around, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-12683</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 - I posted two review&#039;s on the Deseret Website about this movie.  In the first one I mentioned several of the historical inaccuracies, and was very critical of the movie.  This was my first time ever commenting of Deseret News.  I waited about a day or two but the comments were never posted.  I got to wondering what would have happened had I given a positive review, so I posted again under a different name and on a different computer.  This time I gave a positive review and my comments were posted within an hour.  My comments can be read here: 

April 16,2008
 http://www.deseretnews.com/movies/comments/1,5209,500002143,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 &#8211; I posted two review&#8217;s on the Deseret Website about this movie.  In the first one I mentioned several of the historical inaccuracies, and was very critical of the movie.  This was my first time ever commenting of Deseret News.  I waited about a day or two but the comments were never posted.  I got to wondering what would have happened had I given a positive review, so I posted again under a different name and on a different computer.  This time I gave a positive review and my comments were posted within an hour.  My comments can be read here: </p>
<p>April 16,2008<br />
 <a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/movies/comments/1,5209,500002143,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.deseretnews.com/movies/comments/1,5209,500002143,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keller</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-5095</link>
		<dc:creator>Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I am late to this discussion. I actually disagree with this SC statement based on Ehat&#039;s Master&#039;s thesis. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, during the nineteenth century, celestial marriage meant plural marriage. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it is more correct to say that the terms became synomous in the 19th century Utah period. In Nauvoo there is evidence that the two ideas as presented in D&amp;C 132 and in the Anointed Quorum could be distinguished. So, in my opinion, it could be argued that Emma held to the earlier distinctions (which I am don&#039;t think the people the DNews interviewed really understand.) 

To clarify, my point is that our modern anachronistic understanding of celestial marriage is actually closer to the original intent (Nauvoo interpretation) of D&amp;C 132 than the 19th century Utah interpretation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I am late to this discussion. I actually disagree with this SC statement based on Ehat&#8217;s Master&#8217;s thesis. </p>
<blockquote><p>However, during the nineteenth century, celestial marriage meant plural marriage. </p></blockquote>
<p>I think it is more correct to say that the terms became synomous in the 19th century Utah period. In Nauvoo there is evidence that the two ideas as presented in D&amp;C 132 and in the Anointed Quorum could be distinguished. So, in my opinion, it could be argued that Emma held to the earlier distinctions (which I am don&#8217;t think the people the DNews interviewed really understand.) </p>
<p>To clarify, my point is that our modern anachronistic understanding of celestial marriage is actually closer to the original intent (Nauvoo interpretation) of D&amp;C 132 than the 19th century Utah interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: Juvenile Instructor &#187; The Historians&#8217; Craft: A Call for Understanding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenile Instructor &#187; The Historians&#8217; Craft: A Call for Understanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oases, April 13 &#171; The Exponent: &quot;On Zion&#039;s Mt.&quot;: ReddSteve: Guest Request: Needed: Asmb: Emma Smith Movie, Again.Christopher: Emma Smith Movie, Again.Jared T: Emma Smith Movie, Again.SC Taysom: Emma Smith Movie, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oases, April 13 &laquo; The Exponent: &#8220;On Zion&#8217;s Mt.&#8221;: ReddSteve: Guest Request: Needed: Asmb: Emma Smith Movie, Again.Christopher: Emma Smith Movie, Again.Jared T: Emma Smith Movie, Again.SC Taysom: Emma Smith Movie, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>downey a little too short and nervous.
i&#039;m thinking more a young Robert Duvall. dean cain looks like a human toaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>downey a little too short and nervous.<br />
i&#8217;m thinking more a young Robert Duvall. dean cain looks like a human toaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-4720</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You’re idea about an indie film has set my imagination alight. Who could be JS? Jared Leto? Robert Downey Jr.?&lt;/em&gt; 

I nominate Dean Cain to reprise his role as JS from &lt;em&gt;September Dawn&lt;/em&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You’re idea about an indie film has set my imagination alight. Who could be JS? Jared Leto? Robert Downey Jr.?</em> </p>
<p>I nominate Dean Cain to reprise his role as JS from <em>September Dawn</em>. <img src='http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jared T</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-4706</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My second source of irritation is what Steve lays out in the OP about setting up the dichotomy between academic history and family history.&quot;

Agreed agreed agreed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My second source of irritation is what Steve lays out in the OP about setting up the dichotomy between academic history and family history.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed agreed agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: SC Taysom</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-4705</link>
		<dc:creator>SC Taysom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smb,
Your idea about an indie film has set my imagination alight. Who could be JS? Jared Leto? Robert Downey Jr.? I think it has great potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smb,<br />
Your idea about an indie film has set my imagination alight. Who could be JS? Jared Leto? Robert Downey Jr.? I think it has great potential.</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
		<link>http://www.juvenileinstructor.org/276/comment-page-1/#comment-4696</link>
		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sct, i guess i see this movie (sight unseen, i confess) as a cinematization of Gracia Jones&#039;s work, which to my reading of the one about &quot;Joseph and Emma&quot; is equally out of touch with the documentary witness.  At some level, I guess I&#039;m saying, let them give her a parade even if she wasn&#039;t the first one on the moon.  Once we&#039;ve had a stable hagiography that is pro-Emma for a bit, then it&#039;s time to start getting closer to historical roots.  I seriously think it could be a great Indie film maybe with someone spunky like Rebecca Pidgeon as Emma and someone similarly textured for JSJ.  That&#039;s how I think we should protest the current Emma movie personally, by moving to the next stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sct, i guess i see this movie (sight unseen, i confess) as a cinematization of Gracia Jones&#8217;s work, which to my reading of the one about &#8220;Joseph and Emma&#8221; is equally out of touch with the documentary witness.  At some level, I guess I&#8217;m saying, let them give her a parade even if she wasn&#8217;t the first one on the moon.  Once we&#8217;ve had a stable hagiography that is pro-Emma for a bit, then it&#8217;s time to start getting closer to historical roots.  I seriously think it could be a great Indie film maybe with someone spunky like Rebecca Pidgeon as Emma and someone similarly textured for JSJ.  That&#8217;s how I think we should protest the current Emma movie personally, by moving to the next stage.</p>
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